Episode 23: The Future.

Top of the show 

Welcome everyone and thank you for joining us. This is valid arguments. A show that’s soon to be replaced with reruns of married with children. I’m Jeremy Horton, and Today were going to be talking about The Future! We will also be arguing Heart surgery, and colonization. Joining me today is Mr. Milo Mordhorst on my right. (Milo intro). And Mr. Joel Barkley on my left. (Joel intro). Thank you both, now I will get into the questions in a minute, but first let’s have a word from our sponsor. 

Questions I will ask: 

  • Let’s start today with a place I’m quite fond of. The Earth. In the last few years, we’ve seen attempts to control the weather as an attempt to weaken possibly catastrophic stormfronts. A lot of conspiracy theorists will tell you we’ve gone even further than that. there has even been an international ban against weaponizing the weather under the Environmental Modification Convention. So, my first question is, do you think there will come a point where we completely control our environment? 
  • Speaking of control over the Earth. Let’s go there. The Government. Drink. The people who deemed it necessary to cloud our lives with so much bullshit that only 46% of people worldwide trust their own leaders. That brings me to the greatest government ever invented. A little country called Estonia. In Estonia the only things the government doesn’t do online is Marriages, Divorces, and real estate transactions. They issue legislation proposals, voting, and even the health of their citizens, is done electronically. So, if that’s not the utopian future we all dream of, what is? 
  • Palette cleanser/segment – How much did Dick Cheney pay the guy who donated him a heart? 
  • I bet all of you listening are wondering when we are going to address the big scary elephant in the room. *drum roll* Artificial Intelligence! *crowd goes wild* *drops mic* Who’s ready to talk Terminator?! When is Watson going to link with Siri and make a beautiful bouncing baby overlord to a dystopian race of troll people who used to be called the human race? When is a robot coming to take my job?! 
  • Let’s pretend for Joel’s sake that we don’t completely destroy the earth in the next 30 years. We will still be a bunch of people fighting over who is king turd on shit mountain. Which brings me to a fun military fact. The U.S. Army released a report in 2015 called Visualizing the tactical ground battlefield in the year 2050. In this report they outlined how they believe battlefield technology will progress to the point that automated weapons will make decisions so fast that human operators will become reactionary and have to respond to the machine’s decisions after the fact. Am I weird to find that…. I’m going to say arousing. Slightly terrifying, mostly arousing.  
  •  Palette cleanser/segment – Should we go up or down? (space or ocean) 
  • Let’s turn now from that freedom boner inducing conversation about the military, let’s turn to another kick ass subject. Socio Economic development. A paper published in the Journal of International Development stated a fact and posed a question. The fact is that, most of the world’s poor live in middle‐income countries. This is a shift of course from most of the poor living in the world’s poorest countries, and it has been brought about by fast growth in a number of countries with large populations. This brought about a new geography of global poverty, and begged the question “would you rather have a poor country, or poor people 
  • All this talk about the future has me thinking about the future of entertainment. Over the years we’ve always made entertainment an inclusive and community activity. Today, with streaming content it is easier than ever to experience entertainment alone. The one exception to this rule is MMO’s. Do you guys see this as a last Bastian of keeping aloft a failing social fabric, or will we all be uploaded to the cloud one day?  
  •  Palette cleanser/segment –  
  • how do we solve this thing? 

Argument for: 

  • Cautious optimism  
  • Cautious optimism 
  • Cautious optimism 
  • Cautious optimism 
  • Cautious optimism 
  • Attractive women have more babies 

Sources: 

Key groups: 

  •  American league against war and fascism 
  •  Sierra Club 
  •  The association for Professional Futurists 

Key people: 

  •  Dr. Sheffield (beak guy) 
  •  Nikola Tesla 
  •  Arthur C. Clarke 
  •  Michio Kaku 
  • Ray Kurzwell 

Key Movies:  

  •  Do you Trust this Computer? 
  •  Our Planet 
  •  Last Call at the Oasis 
  • Printing the Legend 
  • H.G. Wells – The time Machine 

Argument Against 

  • Burn it down! 
  • Burn it down! 
  • Burn it down! 
  • Burn it down! 
  • Burn it down! 

Sources: 

Key people: 

  •  Jonathan Franzen 
  •  Ned Ludd 
  •  George Meller 
  •  Alex Jones 

Key groups: 

  •  The Luddites 
  •  The Oath Keepers 
  •  The Patriot Movement 
  • Global Warming Skeptic organizations 

Key Movies: 

  •  Before the flood 
  •  Food Inc. 
  •  The Future of Work and Death 
  •  Human Flow 

Outro: *summarize Joel and Milo end arguments* I think that both sides have………………Valid Arguments. Tonight’s winner had this to say. You can’t connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards. So, you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something – your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. This approach has never let me down, and it has made all the difference in my life. Steve Jobs, ladies and gentleman. If you are for the future then I suggest you get an education and start planning how to create it. If you want future gone entirely, then get yourself a can of hairspray or some aerosol deodorant and start emptying that shit right into the sky.  If you decide to do nothing, then at the very least, keep arguing and talking about it. Because the only way we solve any controversial issue, is to argue about it. 

I’d like to thank you all for joining us, and thanks milo and Joel for your thoughts on the subject. If you want YOUR voice counted amongst those that argue, then get at us on social media @argumentsvalid on twitter and valid.arguments on Instagram, or if you think social media is just as evil as the creator of SPAM, please feel free to call and leave us a voicemail, the number is 309-340-9431. And if you like the show please leave us a rating and review, and tell your friends to argue with us too. and please join us next week for more arguments for you. We hope to disagree with you soon

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